so i don't -- you know, the story of the last two years is that, you know, john boehner, harry reid, barack obama, always find some way to pull a deal out of the fire. so it would be silly to bet against that, but i agree with charles. it's harder in this case to see -- i think you can draw it up on paper, but it's harder to see where the parties come together. the reasonable thing to do would be to say, let's cut the amount we're going to be spending in half and let's agree on doing a little means testing to medicare, which they're both in favor of and let's not get so focused on absolute dollar figures. i am pretty sure that's not going to happen. >> the clock is ticking. gloria, appreciate it, charles and ross, thank you. >>> a family lost at sea off the coast of san francisco. and a murder trial making the cay anthony look, well, boring. x-rated evidence, too many lies to count. plus a defendant who won a singing contest from prison. it's all bizarre. we'll be right back. obster taco. the bar harbor bake is really worth trying. [ male announcer ] get more during red lobster's lob